This just is not my week. After having problems with my MK II slide locking up (you guys here helped me with some answers) now my Browning Buck Mark Micro Plus will not work. The slide on it is completely locked up. Won't move at all.
How do I get the slide to unlock so I can examine the chamber, etc. to check for loaded or not?
Any Buck Mark knowledge here? Thanks in advance.
Browning Buck Mark slide won't open
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Just a question - Did you use the same brand/lot of ammo in this pistol as before with the Mark III?
You can use this guide to assist you. http://chim.embarqspace.com/#/dissecting/4529714459 It's a little difficult to navigate, in that you have to go back up to the tab and click the next number to advance the pages. Once you take the Buckmark's barrel/sight rib rail off you can remove the recoil spring and that should free up the slide. If ammo is locking up the slide then try pressing on the back of the extractor with a punch to release the extractor claw's grip on the rim of the cartridge.
I didn't like the buckmark earlier because the side was too difficult to operate with a lack of gripping surface. But many years back Browning finally listened to me and other's and added some extra metal to the slide, like the Ruger's bolt wings, and now they're much easier to use. Other than that the Buckmark is a fine pistol.
R,
Bullseye
You can use this guide to assist you. http://chim.embarqspace.com/#/dissecting/4529714459 It's a little difficult to navigate, in that you have to go back up to the tab and click the next number to advance the pages. Once you take the Buckmark's barrel/sight rib rail off you can remove the recoil spring and that should free up the slide. If ammo is locking up the slide then try pressing on the back of the extractor with a punch to release the extractor claw's grip on the rim of the cartridge.
I didn't like the buckmark earlier because the side was too difficult to operate with a lack of gripping surface. But many years back Browning finally listened to me and other's and added some extra metal to the slide, like the Ruger's bolt wings, and now they're much easier to use. Other than that the Buckmark is a fine pistol.
R,
Bullseye
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greener
Looks like chim has done a pretty good job of explaining the Buckmark.
You should be able to see whatever is binding the slide by removing the sight base. It opens the slide to full view. Just a reminder, be careful with the sight base screw washers. Theoretically, they are easy to lose. And, theoretically of course, it takes about two weeks to get new ones.
You should be able to see whatever is binding the slide by removing the sight base. It opens the slide to full view. Just a reminder, be careful with the sight base screw washers. Theoretically, they are easy to lose. And, theoretically of course, it takes about two weeks to get new ones.
Nothing binding. This gun was made in 1995, and appears to have been shot little, if any. Took top off, removed slide. No cartridge in chamber. I just bought this gun off the internet, and whomever cleaned the gun, the seller, or my FFL, the gun was dryfired. No damage, other than the slide is so stiff once dryfired the slide will not move.
Reassembled the gun. Went to range. Decided to use CCI SV ammo for first few rounds. Shot four rounds. The empty failed to clear the slide each time, and was caught parallel to the bore in the slide. I failed to notice no round loaded on 5th, and click. Since it dryfired, can't move the slide.
Today I plan to disassemble again and recock hammer. After reassembly I will move the slide 200 times to see if it is loostening up any. Next range trip I will also use CCI MiniMags to see if the empties will clear the slide.
Was this a particular problem in 1995 builds? I understand what Bullseye means when he said not enough meat on the slide in these older Buck Marks.
Also noticed no washers under the sight base screws. Are they missing or did those built in 1995 not have them?
Reassembled the gun. Went to range. Decided to use CCI SV ammo for first few rounds. Shot four rounds. The empty failed to clear the slide each time, and was caught parallel to the bore in the slide. I failed to notice no round loaded on 5th, and click. Since it dryfired, can't move the slide.
Today I plan to disassemble again and recock hammer. After reassembly I will move the slide 200 times to see if it is loostening up any. Next range trip I will also use CCI MiniMags to see if the empties will clear the slide.
Was this a particular problem in 1995 builds? I understand what Bullseye means when he said not enough meat on the slide in these older Buck Marks.
Also noticed no washers under the sight base screws. Are they missing or did those built in 1995 not have them?
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blue68f100
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wet like Sigs? that a new one to me, mine works no matter how much lube is applied. or ammo it gets fed, we shot glock 17's in the academy (after a few sessions with smith 22 revolvers 
) and had a batch of speer lawman ammo that had to have hard primers because we had so many misires that TAP RACK assess Bang was not a drill but normal shooting (we didn't need dummy rounds for ball and dummy drills) but the range instructors all carried Sig p226's and never had a misfire ever, and I can't say mine has in 10 years either. never heard they needed to be dripping with lube, I always wiped on a thin coat and called it good.
) and had a batch of speer lawman ammo that had to have hard primers because we had so many misires that TAP RACK assess Bang was not a drill but normal shooting (we didn't need dummy rounds for ball and dummy drills) but the range instructors all carried Sig p226's and never had a misfire ever, and I can't say mine has in 10 years either. never heard they needed to be dripping with lube, I always wiped on a thin coat and called it good.-
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If you are not using grease or TM25b during range practice you will wear out the niton coating the Al frame is coated with. I've seen some after a couple of boxes destroy the frame. They guy was use to glocks and did not lube it. Carry use light oil is fine. But not for range use.
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it's been hoppes or shooters choice since it was issued to me, 10 years ago. and it was used for years before I got it, the frame pretty much looks brand new. the finish on the slide is a bit thin now (lots of holster wear)
now any gun thats run a lot without any oil (even glocks) will eat themselves up quickly. but the "wet" look will attract more gunkand cause failures. glocks are supposed to have a drop on the barrel and on each of the four metal tabs the slide rides on running it dry is bad ju-ju.
now any gun thats run a lot without any oil (even glocks) will eat themselves up quickly. but the "wet" look will attract more gunkand cause failures. glocks are supposed to have a drop on the barrel and on each of the four metal tabs the slide rides on running it dry is bad ju-ju.
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greener
27 beck:
When you can retract the slide, check the recoil spring guide rod. It should be straight and not like this
Somehow, you can reassemble the pistol and end up bending the guide rod. This is a picture of my Buckmark and I have not a clue how I managed to bend the guide rod. It interfered with the slide operation, but did not lock it up.
Also, check the Browning section at Rimfire Central. Chim and a couple of the others are pretty knowledgeable Buckmarkers.
When you can retract the slide, check the recoil spring guide rod. It should be straight and not like this
Somehow, you can reassemble the pistol and end up bending the guide rod. This is a picture of my Buckmark and I have not a clue how I managed to bend the guide rod. It interfered with the slide operation, but did not lock it up.
Also, check the Browning section at Rimfire Central. Chim and a couple of the others are pretty knowledgeable Buckmarkers.
Took my Buck Mark Micro to the range again Saturday. Ran 200 rounds of CCI MiniMags thru it with NO issues. After finishing up shooting for the day, I put a fired cartridge in the chamber and pulled the trigger.
Since the hammer is now full forward, same issue. Slide would not budge. Called Range Officer #1 over. Asked him to rack the slide. He was wearing gloves, but slide did not budge. On the way to my truck, saw Range Officer #2. Asked him to rack the slide. He tried and tried, but slide might have moved only 1/8". He could not rack the slide, but did offer me $50 for the gun.
Since the gorillas could not rack the slide, I now know it is a gun problem. Looks like a trip to a gunsmith is in the future.
Since the hammer is now full forward, same issue. Slide would not budge. Called Range Officer #1 over. Asked him to rack the slide. He was wearing gloves, but slide did not budge. On the way to my truck, saw Range Officer #2. Asked him to rack the slide. He tried and tried, but slide might have moved only 1/8". He could not rack the slide, but did offer me $50 for the gun.
Since the gorillas could not rack the slide, I now know it is a gun problem. Looks like a trip to a gunsmith is in the future.
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greener
Sounds like you have a problem with the recoil spring and/or guide rod. For ~$10 you can get the whole plastic block, recoil guide rod and recoil spring. I'd order one and replace them. Some of your descriptions sound like the problems I was having with my Buck Mark. Takes about 5 minutes to replace the system.
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Welcome to the forum.TH3180 wrote:I have heard of this if the sight base does not have the washers on the screws. Just a thought.
I think you are right about the washers. I've gotten the sight base too tight and the slide doesn't work well.
When this happens, it is probably either a tight sight base or bent recoil rod. (I've had the recoil rod problem)Reassembled the gun. Went to range. Decided to use CCI SV ammo for first few rounds. Shot four rounds. The empty failed to clear the slide each time, and was caught parallel to the bore in the slide.
When I first got the gun, the washers were missing. I "borrowed" two from another Buck Mark, and they are now in place.TH3180 wrote:I have heard of this if the sight base does not have the washers on the screws. Just a thought.
If the recoil rod were bent, why would the gun work great for 200 rounds with CCI MiniMags, but lock up when the trigger is pulled on a fired cartridge?
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greener
On RFC you mentioned not ejecting and IIRC casings sideways in the slide. That's a symptom of something hindering slide motion. I had this problem and it was a bent and bending guide rod. see my picture above. It got progressively worse and the slide got harder to move. Easy enough to check. Lock the slide back and look at the guide rod. (took me a while to figure that one out, unfortunately).27 Beck wrote:If the recoil rod were bent, why would the gun work great for 200 rounds with CCI MiniMags, but lock up when the trigger is pulled on a fired cartridge?
If nothing is binding the slide then something is binding the hammer. I'd look for it by doing a detail strip. With my ability, I'd also keep the box to send the parts back to Browning handy.
Have you called Browning?