New 22/45 (Mark III) hammer pivot pin

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Post by Bullseye » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:32 am

Glenn when I looked at the picture you posted the first thing I thought was that the hammer pin is a new style with the anti slip head. The one side is only slightly larger than the normal pin diameter, and it does look somewhat like the head of a nail. It only sticks out about 1/16th of an inch on the left side of the pistol. If yours sticks out at all on the left then it is probably the new pin.

The old pin is completely straight and has a groove cut into one side. Unlike the new pin the old one can slide completely through the frame.

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Post by Glenn » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:18 am

It sounds like you're describing exactly what it looks like on my 22/45. I'm giong to take a close up pic and post it. I guess I'll now have a spare pin if I ever do need it. 8)

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Post by greener » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:15 pm

Just called Ruger about this. Jim was very polite, asked if I had heard about this on the internet and took my information. I'm not sure what "Get you one right out" means in delivery time, but it seemed to be a no muss, no fuss call.

I haven't noticed a problem with the one in the pistol, but I would like to lessen the chances in the future.

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Post by Bullseye » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:48 pm

That usually means he'll ship it out the next business day. I typically get packages from Ruger in three to four days via regular mail.

The only time I ever had a question from them about parts was when I ordered multiple new 22/45 hammer pivot pins. I had the serial numbers of the pistols in question in hand when I called anticipating needing them to complete the order. Apparently Ruger is trying to prevent the parts scammers from reselling these parts, like they were doing with the magazine parts on ebay. Jim mentioned to me that he had to get approval from higher up to send out more than one per customer, but since I had readily provided the pistol serial numbers that it shouldn't be a problem. My order form reflected the serials for each of the pins and arrived in four days.

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Post by Glenn » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:33 am

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I called Jim on Friday. He told me it would ship on Tuesday. 8)

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Post by greener » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:51 pm

Glenn wrote:greener,
I called Jim on Friday. He told me it would ship on Tuesday. 8)
Sounds like a pretty quick turn around for a "freebie." Among the things I look at are the firing pin stop pin and the hammer pivot pin. No problems on my 22/45 with either, so far. It would be nice to have hammer pivot pin a bit less likely to move.

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Post by Glenn » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:27 pm

I'll be sure to post a pic of the new one and the one currently in my pistol. I assume I'll have the new one later this week/early next week. 8)

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Post by Bullseye » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:32 pm

Those new hammer pivot pins definitely stay in place.

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Post by Glenn » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:35 am

I looked at mine at the range yesterday. It had walked just a bit to the left side of the pistol, but that's it. I can see how the old design would have possible slipped into the groves that it sits in.

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Post by Bullseye » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:21 pm

When the old pin walked here is what you'd see from the outside of the pistol.

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Post by Glenn » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:19 pm

Nothing like that Bullseye...mine has the "nail head" style pin on that side. I should have said the pin moved a bit side to side, but didn't move in the frame like that...thankfully!

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Post by Bullseye » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:26 am

The reason why they made the pins with the "head" on them was to prevent this type of failure from happening. The Mark II/IIIs already have a hammer pivot pin with a head on them but the grip panels cover them up. They had to design a pin head big enough to prevent the pin from walking but small enough not to interfere with the shooter's grip or access to the pistols controls.

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Post by Glenn » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:55 am

Good point Bullseye. I didn't even think that they had to consider gripping the pistol.

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Post by greener » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:26 pm

greener wrote:Just called Ruger about this. Jim was very polite, asked if I had heard about this on the internet and took my information. I'm not sure what "Get you one right out" means in delivery time, but it seemed to be a no muss, no fuss call.
Ordered on 10/29, shipped 10/31 received 11/2. Used a 1/8" pin punch to push the old pin out and hold the hammer in place. Pushed the punch out with the new pin. Replacement was a very simple, quick process.

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Post by Glenn » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:36 am

Awesome advice greener. 8)

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