Which MKIII ?

[greener]

I don't think it is so much "over lawyered" as an example of a company having to respond to regulatory idiocy. Some states (PDRC?) decided to make handguns perfectly safe. Ruger appears to have decided that one size fits all was the best approach. Seems to be an exercise in futility since the only perfectly safe firearm is one that hasn't been made. Maybe that's what the regulators want.

If I had my druthers, I'd have neither on the MKIII. I have pistols with and without the mag disconnect, but since I almost never shoot without the magazine, it doesn't matter. I don't use the dohicky on the side to tell me there is a round in the chamber, I look into the chamber through the big hole you get when you pull the bolt back. I've thought about removing the mag disconnect on my MKIII's, but they don't bother me enough to make it worth the effort. I haven't seen the mag safety or LCI affect the way the MKIII handles or shoots compared to the MKII. They are both equal. If I were in the market for a Ruger MK, I'd base the decision on condition, price and availability. As far as I can see there isn't a hill of beans difference in the way they shoot.

I don't see these discussions on forums for other pistols. It seems that only the Ruger MKII/III stirs up such passion.

Y'all have a great shooting day, mag safety or no mag safety.

[Decado]

I can respect your feelings about pulling off the disconnect and the LCI. The LCI does not bother me, the disconnet does, only because it makes it a hair more cumbersum to break the pistol down.

I did try to get ther LCI off last night, but I didnt have a rubber mallet so I left it alone.

I have the MKII bushing on the way so I am going to go ahead and pull out the disconnect parts.

Thanks for rsponding Greener

[greener]

Didn't mean to come on quite that strong. Nice thing about Rugers is that they are darned easy to make almost any improvements you want. I've just never quite understood the passion some folks have about the safety "improvements." Actually, I think the LCI can be more of a safety hazard than a safety aid if it gets you out of the habit of looking in the breach to verify the weapon is clear. It's a habit I've had for 50+ years.

I've thought about removing the LCI, but then I'd end up doing a real botched job of filling in the slot.

Good shooting.

[Decado]

I trained myself to check the barrel as well, I do not put any of my pistols away until I drop the mag, rack and check the barrel for a round.

I decided, the LCI is not bothering me, so it can stay on there.

[cadillo]

Didn't mean to come on quite that strong. Nice thing about Rugers is that they are darned easy to make almost any improvements you want. I've just never quite understood the passion some folks have about the safety "improvements." Actually, I think the LCI can be more of a safety hazard than a safety aid if it gets you out of the habit of looking in the breach to verify the weapon is clear. It's a habit I've had for 50+ years.

I've thought about removing the LCI, but then I'd end up doing a real botched job of filling in the slot.

Good shooting.

The LCI consists of 2 pieces and some springs. I simply removed the metal tab that engages the rim of the cartridge and left the plastic part and springs in place. From the outside it looks like the factory installation, but there's nothing on the inside to interfere with loading, extraction or cleaning. Leave the slot filled with the factory's plastic part.

EASY FIX!!!!!

[Decado]

That sounds like some thing I would want to do, instead of having that empty slot in the pistol.

How did you remove those parts? did you just use Bullseye's instructions to remove the LCI, take off the parts you mentioned and then put the plastic piece back in minus those parts?

[Decado]

Well, my bushing showed up quick from Numrich, I broke the whole pistol down to install the bushing and remove the mag disconnect.

Once again, I ran into problems getting the sear back in after I decided to pull it out to clean it off.

I used Bullseye's instructions (with pics) to figure out how to get it back in. While I was in there, I decided to put my Marvel trigger in there.

I put the bushing in and threw everything back together, thinking I would have some problem, suprisingly to me, I pulled the bolt and then pulled the trigger, the hammer dropped, I was dancing .

My VQ sear should be here soon from Rimfire Sports, so I will break it down again to put that in.

The Marvel trigger alone has made the pull very short, it breaks very nicely, I can't wait to get the sear in and get it out to the range.

Just want to say, I know this is common knowledge, but, Bullseye's tutorials can be life savers at times , I really appreciate him for posting all this usefull info, I think Ruger should be paying him

Thanks everyone for responding

[greener]

Congrats on completing the work.

Bullseye did an excellent job of demystifying the Ruger. If it weren't for those instructions, I would probably have spent a long time looking at a shoe box of Ruger parts.

[cadillo]

That sounds like some thing I would want to do, instead of having that empty slot in the pistol.

How did you remove those parts? did you just use Bullseye's instructions to remove the LCI, take off the parts you mentioned and then put the plastic piece back in minus those parts?

Remove the upper from the grip frame. Look on the bottom side of the upper/receiver and you will see a pin that the LCI pivots on. Tap on the receiver a bit with either a mallet of piece of hardwood until the pin starts to back out. Gently remove it and the LCI parts will come out into your hand as a unit. I simply removed the metal tab which extends in front of the chamber and then re-installed the plastic part, which fills the slot along with the two springs and the pin. Done! Once you pull these parts, you'll see how simple it really is.

[Decado]

Thanks Cadillo, I will try that tonight after work. Hey Greener, I would have had that same box as you were it not for this forum .

I actually found this forum from browsing RFC, I was not even into Ruger pistols until I got on RFC and here, after buying a 10/22 I figured, since everyone had so many good things to say about the Ruger MK line of pistols, I would get one and see whats up.

Now, its one of my favorite pistols. It helps that its so user friendly and there are thousands of parts and different things you can do with this pistol.

Thanks guys for responding

[Decado]

Got the LCI out, thanks Cadillo , it was as easy as you said it was, I used the rubber handle of a screw driver to tap the reciever until the bolt popped out, then the LCI went flying .

I found it under my bed with the littl metel piece seperated from it. My only question is, was I supposed to remove the long spring before putting the LCI back in?

I pulled the long spring off, but now the LCI flops in and out on its own, I am thinking I need to put this spring back in huh?

[hogdogs]

You got it bud....
Only the metal piece goes.... Mine stays in as it did previously.
Brent

[cadillo]

Got the LCI out, thanks Cadillo , it was as easy as you said it was, I used the rubber handle of a screw driver to tap the reciever until the bolt popped out, then the LCI went flying .

I found it under my bed with the littl metel piece seperated from it. My only question is, was I supposed to remove the long spring before putting the LCI back in?

I pulled the long spring off, but now the LCI flops in and out on its own, I am thinking I need to put this spring back in huh?

Yes. Put the spring back in. The only part you want to remove is the metal tab. If I remember correctly mine had two springs, which I put back inside. One of the springs keeps the plastic lever from flopping around. As I recall the other is supposed to stabilize the tab that you removed, but I reinstalled both of them.