New 22/45 (Mark III) hammer pivot pin

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:11 am

Glenn wrote:Awesome advice greener.

ooooooooooops, just see the next post

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:17 am

greener wrote:
greener wrote:Just called Ruger about this. Jim was very polite, asked if I had heard about this on the internet and took my information. I'm not sure what "Get you one right out" means in delivery time, but it seemed to be a no muss, no fuss call.
Ordered on 10/29, shipped 10/31 received 11/2. Used a 1/8" pin punch to push the old pin out and hold the hammer in place. Pushed the punch out with the nerw pin. Replacement was a very simple, quick process.

Rob, that was pretty clever for one of us older, slightly fat, slight;y balding guys, en?
Like I told on of the young kids at work one day "do you think I got this old by being stupid???

greener · Post by **greener** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:20 pm

Getting less "slightly" on both.

Didn't get to try it out today. I went to a college rugby match to watch my youngest. Hate to say it, but she plays like a girl. The men's match on the next field was more interesting. More fights. I think the rules are pass the ball backwards and there are no rules.

ttorion · Post by **ttorion** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:59 am

My Mark III 22/45 was produced in early April, 2007, based on the date on the envelope with the casings. It appears to me to have the new pin.

greener · Post by **greener** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:13 pm

Tried the 22/45 Sunday. The new pin didn't fall out, so I must have done it half-way correctly.

I'd like to say that the pistol shot better and the groups were tighter. But I won't.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:46 pm

greener wrote:Tried the 22/45 Sunday. The new pin didn't fall out, so I must have done it half-way correctly.

I'd like to say that the pistol shot better and the groups were tighter. But I won't.

Most likely ther is nothing wrong with the gun, IMHO, the problem is with th GUNNER.

greener · Post by **greener** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:10 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
greener wrote:Tried the 22/45 Sunday. The new pin didn't fall out, so I must have done it half-way correctly.

I'd like to say that the pistol shot better and the groups were tighter. But I won't.

Most likely ther is nothing wrong with the gun, IMHO, the problem is with th GUNNER.

I think we need a committee to study this. The targets had "NRA" on them so they have to be good. They were well-fastened to the backer, so they couldn't move just before the bullet got there. The ammo is guaranteed to be deadly accurate. All that's left is the gun and the hammer pivot pin didn't fix that.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:00 pm

greener wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:
greener wrote:Tried the 22/45 Sunday. The new pin didn't fall out, so I must have done it half-way correctly.

I'd like to say that the pistol shot better and the groups were tighter. But I won't.

Most likely ther is nothing wrong with the gun, IMHO, the problem is with th GUNNER.
I think we need a committee to study this. The targets had "NRA" on them so they have to be good. They were well-fastened to the backer, so they couldn't move just before the bullet got there. The ammo is guaranteed to be deadly accurate. All that's left is the gun and the hammer pivot pin didn't fix that.

Know what your probl is, you are in an area called a fault zone and the tectonic? plates are moving causing a shift between you and the target. These movements are so smooth they do not register on the Richter erthquake scale.

Post by **Bullseye** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:07 pm

ttorion wrote:My Mark III 22/45 was produced in early April, 2007, based on the date on the envelope with the casings. It appears to me to have the new pin.

Welcome to Guntalk-Online!

Looking at the picture you clearly have the new style hammer pin. The head of it is sticking slightly out of the frame. That pin won't be walking to the right. It is the left side of the frame that is thinner than the earlier Mark II 22/45 grip/frame and this is where the damage has happened in the past. The right side of the frame is sturdy enough to handle a little leftward pin movement.

R,
Bullseye

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:10 pm

My pin came the other day, I really need to take a pic of it. The one that came with the gun is the updated one, so I now have a spare.

ttorion,
Any more pics of your 22/45?

Wizard1500 · Post by **Wizard1500** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:13 am

Bullseye wrote:
ttorion wrote:My Mark III 22/45 was produced in early April, 2007, based on the date on the envelope with the casings. It appears to me to have the new pin.

Welcome to Guntalk-Online!

Looking at the picture you clearly have the new style hammer pin. The head of it is sticking slightly out of the frame. That pin won't be walking to the right. It is the left side of the frame that is thinner than the earlier Mark II 22/45 grip/frame and this is where the damage has happened in the past. The right side of the frame is sturdy enough to handle a little leftward pin movement.

R,
Bullseye

Thanks for clearing that up, Bullseye. My 4" fluted barrel model was mfg. on 11/14/06 and it has the new pin. The head prevents it from working towards the right of the gun.

greener · Post by **greener** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:54 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
greener wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:
Most likely ther is nothing wrong with the gun, IMHO, the problem is with th GUNNER.
I think we need a committee to study this. The targets had "NRA" on them so they have to be good. They were well-fastened to the backer, so they couldn't move just before the bullet got there. The ammo is guaranteed to be deadly accurate. All that's left is the gun and the hammer pivot pin didn't fix that.
Know what your probl is, you are in an area called a fault zone and the tectonic? plates are moving causing a shift between you and the target. These movements are so smooth they do not register on the Richter erthquake scale.

That may be the cause. Richmond is on an east-coast geological formation known as the fall line. Could have something to do with bullets that fall low.

Post by **Bullseye** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:38 pm

Thanks for clearing that up, Bullseye. My 4" fluted barrel model was mfg. on 11/14/06 and it has the new pin. The head prevents it from working towards the right of the gun.

Wizard,

Welcome to Guntalk-Online!

Did you get that pistol new? Nov-06 is way before the new pins were available, maybe its a retrofit by the dealer or a previous owner. The new style pins became available on production guns in April-07.

R,
Bullseye

Wizard1500 · Post by **Wizard1500** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:38 am

Bullseye wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up, Bullseye. My 4" fluted barrel model was mfg. on 11/14/06 and it has the new pin. The head prevents it from working towards the right of the gun.
Wizard,

Welcome to Guntalk-Online!

Did you get that pistol new? Nov-06 is way before the new pins were available, maybe its a retrofit by the dealer or a previous owner. The new style pins became available on production guns in April-07.

R,
Bullseye

Yes, I got the pistol new (purchased on 12-30-2006). The retention pin definately has a head (like a nail) on the left side of the frame, so that it cannot drift to the right. The only thing I can imagine is that the 4" fluted barrel was a new offering from Ruger at the time, so maybe they used those pins from the start. I'm trying to get a good picture for you to look at.
BTW: mine looks just like ttorion's.....

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:24 am

You may be right about that new style pin being standard on a new production gun but your's is the first one that I know of with it. Ruger didn't start putting them into all 22/45 Mark IIIs until several months later like I mentioned earlier. The best thing is that you have one of those pins and your frame is not likely to be damaged by pin walking.

R,
Bullseye