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Something I've noticed...
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:16 am
by chadflys
I've tested a few new guns lately and compared to my 24yr old MkII cocking is much easier and smoother on the new ones. I have much resistance at first then is kinda pops back. When I had it apart I noticed the milling marks on the bottom of slide. Is this just more charactoristic of older models???
Thanks,
Chad
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:24 am
by Bullseye
Machining marks in firearms were more a product of the time rather than anything else. Many brands sported these surface blemishes back in the 1970's and 80's. Today's firearms are mostly made in a CNC process and the quality standards are a little more consistent than those earlier years. Functionality of the older pistols is not in question and many are preferred over the newer models by firearms owners.
R,
Bullseye
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:32 am
by bearandoldman
Bullseye wrote:Machining marks in firearms were more a product of the time rather than anything else. Many brands sported these surface blemishes back in the 1970's and 80's. Today's firearms are mostly made in a CNC process and the quality standards are a little more consistent than those earlier years. Functionality of the older pistols is not in question and many are preferred over the newer models by firearms owners.
R,
Bullseye
If older things are better, I must be FANTASTIC.

what I have noticed
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:38 am
by chadflys
Thanks Bullseye! That is what I thought. It functions great and not an issue and nothing I'm going to worry about either. I just got this gun and it was exploritory when I took it all apart. I'm not sure this 24 year old thing had been taken apart much. Thanks for the answer.
Another question if you don't mind. I have noticed on others on this site a guard of some sort blocking the trigger compontents. Does that come with the trigger upgrade or something else I need to invest in after I get the VQ trigger. Are there any other triggers that are better?
Thanks
Chad
Re: what I have noticed
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:50 am
by bearandoldman
chadflys wrote:Thanks Bullseye! That is what I thought. It functions great and not an issue and nothing I'm going to worry about either. I just got this gun and it was exploritory when I took it all apart. I'm not sure this 24 year old thing had been taken apart much. Thanks for the answer.
Another question if you don't mind. I have noticed on others on this site a guard of some sort blocking the trigger compontents. Does that come with the trigger upgrade or something else I need to invest in after I get the VQ trigger. Are there any other triggers that are better?
Thanks
Chad
Sounds as if someone has put a blast shield on it to keep the powder residue off the trigger components to some extent. There was an after market one available at one time but most were home made from soda can. Is it just a thin metal piece over the trigger. On my Mark II's I have added a pre travel screw to the trigger but this makes all your adjustments internal, the VQ trigger you can adjust without stripping the gun down.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:52 pm
by Bullseye
A trigger shield is not part of the VQ kit. The trigger shield was a part that an enterprising individual came up with many years ago. He sold them like hotcakes, almost by the gross. They were made out of stainless shim stock and fit the Mark II model. But a few years back he went out of business and the supply dried up on these. Also with the release of the Mark III, with its trigger that has a tab on the back side, that style shield would not work properly. There are some home made plans out there to fashion these out of pop cans or other thin metals. I haven't seen a real need for this type of shield, except in the case of a really loose receiver. In that situation, the shield acts as a shim and tightens up the fit between the frame and receiver.
R,
Bullseye
Re: what I have noticed
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:56 pm
by softpoint
bearandoldman wrote:chadflys wrote:Thanks Bullseye! That is what I thought. It functions great and not an issue and nothing I'm going to worry about either. I just got this gun and it was exploritory when I took it all apart. I'm not sure this 24 year old thing had been taken apart much. Thanks for the answer.
Another question if you don't mind. I have noticed on others on this site a guard of some sort blocking the trigger compontents. Does that come with the trigger upgrade or something else I need to invest in after I get the VQ trigger. Are there any other triggers that are better?
Thanks
Chad
Sounds as if someone has put a blast shield on it to keep the powder residue off the trigger components to some extent. There was an after market one available at one time but most were home made from soda can. Is it just a thin metal piece over the trigger. On my Mark II's I have added a pre travel screw to the trigger but this makes all your adjustments internal, the VQ trigger you can adjust without stripping the gun down.
great looking friend you have there.
Re: what I have noticed
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:03 pm
by bearandoldman
softpoint wrote:bearandoldman wrote:chadflys wrote:Thanks Bullseye! That is what I thought. It functions great and not an issue and nothing I'm going to worry about either. I just got this gun and it was exploritory when I took it all apart. I'm not sure this 24 year old thing had been taken apart much. Thanks for the answer.
Another question if you don't mind. I have noticed on others on this site a guard of some sort blocking the trigger compontents. Does that come with the trigger upgrade or something else I need to invest in after I get the VQ trigger. Are there any other triggers that are better?
Thanks
Chad
Sounds as if someone has put a blast shield on it to keep the powder residue off the trigger components to some extent. There was an after market one available at one time but most were home made from soda can. Is it just a thin metal piece over the trigger. On my Mark II's I have added a pre travel screw to the trigger but this makes all your adjustments internal, the VQ trigger you can adjust without stripping the gun down.
great looking friend you have there.
Welcome to the forum Softpoint from me and Bear, my range dog and constant companion of close to 9 years now. We were both younger in that photo.
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:57 pm
by Bullseye
Welcome to the Forum!
I'm sure you'll like it here, lots of great folks.
R,
Bullseye