Compensator/Muzzle brake???
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Compensator/Muzzle brake???
Does a Comp/MB really help the .22 out that much? I just put one on my Ruger MK-III and I haven't shot it enough to make up my mind about it. I admit the WOW! Factor is there but does it really help you out ??? What say you folks??
Here's mine now with the MB.
Here's mine now with the MB.
- bearandoldman
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Is there a reduction in recoil? Yes.
Enough to make a difference? Very subjective.
I have one of my HS Citation's set up with one that I shoot for open sight practice and I can notice the difference, slight that it is. I could see the use for International Rapid Fire where you start from the lowered ready position, 5 targets turn, then you raise the pistol and shoot 5 separate targets in 5 seconds. For Bullseye, I can't see any improvement. We have 10 seconds for 5 shots on one target... plenty of time.
On a side note, I Ransom tested the above compensator on three different Hi Standard barrels. In every barrel with every ammo tested, it enlarged the group by up to 1/2" @ 50 yards.
FWIW
Enough to make a difference? Very subjective.
I have one of my HS Citation's set up with one that I shoot for open sight practice and I can notice the difference, slight that it is. I could see the use for International Rapid Fire where you start from the lowered ready position, 5 targets turn, then you raise the pistol and shoot 5 separate targets in 5 seconds. For Bullseye, I can't see any improvement. We have 10 seconds for 5 shots on one target... plenty of time.
On a side note, I Ransom tested the above compensator on three different Hi Standard barrels. In every barrel with every ammo tested, it enlarged the group by up to 1/2" @ 50 yards.
FWIW
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington
Another side note.
About a year ago I picked up a used Marvel 22 conversion unit 1 for a 1911. It also had a steel compensator. When I shot it, I was sorely disappointed in the accuracy as these have a 1" @ 50 yards requirement when sold (when Eley Tenex is used). It shot closer to 1" @ 50 feet. I got to examining it closer and noticed a lot of lead buildup on the exhaust ports. I took it off and looked closely, there was barely enough room left for a bullet to pass through it. I took a 1/2" metal bit and hand turned out an unbelievable amount of lead. I 2-handed it off a bench at 50 feet and it was back to a ragged hole group. I haven't Ransom tested it yet at 50 yards but when I do I'll post the results.
FWIW
About a year ago I picked up a used Marvel 22 conversion unit 1 for a 1911. It also had a steel compensator. When I shot it, I was sorely disappointed in the accuracy as these have a 1" @ 50 yards requirement when sold (when Eley Tenex is used). It shot closer to 1" @ 50 feet. I got to examining it closer and noticed a lot of lead buildup on the exhaust ports. I took it off and looked closely, there was barely enough room left for a bullet to pass through it. I took a 1/2" metal bit and hand turned out an unbelievable amount of lead. I 2-handed it off a bench at 50 feet and it was back to a ragged hole group. I haven't Ransom tested it yet at 50 yards but when I do I'll post the results.
FWIW
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Looks impressive, but I suspect the weight has more to do with recoil on a 22 cal.
How does that one fasten on? Does it use the front sight screw or a secondary screw. I hope it does not mar the pretty blue finish.
How does that one fasten on? Does it use the front sight screw or a secondary screw. I hope it does not mar the pretty blue finish.
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Custom Built 1911
SS MKIII 6 7/8" Fluted Hunter. Mueller Quick Shot, Bushnell 2x Scope, Hogue Rubber Grips
Custom Built 1911
'Til Baldy gets back, most have a screw that goes into the original sight screw hole. I think I see that at the rear of the compensator. There's also an o-ring inside that makes everything snug.blue68f100 wrote:Looks impressive, but I suspect the weight has more to do with recoil on a 22 cal.
How does that one fasten on? Does it use the front sight screw or a secondary screw. I hope it does not mar the pretty blue finish.
I thought about one for mine, and decided against it because of the weight. The bull barrel is heavy enough, some days.
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Hi Blue. You just take the old sight off and it fits right over the same screw hole as the original site. I know my shooting partner drools all over that little pistol since I put the Hogue thumb rest grip and muzzle brake on it.blue68f100 wrote:Looks impressive, but I suspect the weight has more to do with recoil on a 22 cal.
How does that one fasten on? Does it use the front sight screw or a secondary screw. I hope it does not mar the pretty blue finish.
I for one will be looking forward to your results. I am not able to get out as much as I would like nor get to a out door range where I can shoot 50 yds or more. Most testing I can do is at a 50 foot indoor range.stork wrote:Another side note.
About a year ago I picked up a used Marvel 22 conversion unit 1 for a 1911. It also had a steel compensator. When I shot it, I was sorely disappointed in the accuracy as these have a 1" @ 50 yards requirement when sold (when Eley Tenex is used). It shot closer to 1" @ 50 feet. I got to examining it closer and noticed a lot of lead buildup on the exhaust ports. I took it off and looked closely, there was barely enough room left for a bullet to pass through it. I took a 1/2" metal bit and hand turned out an unbelievable amount of lead. I 2 handed it off a bench at 50 feet and it was back to a ragged hole group. I haven't Ransom tested it yet at 50 yards but when I do I'll post the results.
FWIW
I can state much experience with High Standard Comps. They hurt precision accuracy. They might help functional accuracy with a little less muzzle jump in rapid. But trigger control, and a good grip, weight and balance setup will go much farther for you. The 6"+ slab side or bull barrel MkII pistols recoil straight back for me. No jump at all.
More good info. Thanks Mr Hardball..Hardball wrote:I can state much experience with High Standard Comps. They hurt precision accuracy. They might help functional accuracy with a little less muzzle jump in rapid. But trigger control, and a good grip, weight and balance setup will go much farther for you. The 6"+ slab side or bull barrel MkII pistols recoil straight back for me. No jump at all.