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S&W Model 41 with Bushnell Scope

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:08 am
by jstanfield103
As many of you now I started a thread that was called Worst Ammo Ever. I was having trouble grouping my rounds with CCI SV. After listening to everyone here and on other sights, I realized it had to be the Red Dot scope othat I just put on. I could never get it to hold "0". I sent it to the factory for repair and ordered a Bushnell Elite handgun scope. I really like this scope, the only problem is the eye relief is 20" exactly. I have shorter arms so I really have to keep my arms as striaght almost as I can get them. But here is a picture of the gun scoped with it and a target at 25 yards, I was using Federal Bulk Ammo from Wally Wourld. I can't wait to try the CCI SV again and see what it does. Now I have to steady my self a little more. I was also using a bench rest that I made. The 6 power you see every little move meant. That Target is 3.75" across, need some more practice, I will only get better. I hope.

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:39 am
by Bullseye
20" is about right for a "one arm extended hold " eye relief.

R,
Bullseye

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:20 am
by stork
Before putting the CCI on paper remember to scrub the bore with a nylon brush, otherwise your first few shots may be out of the group.

I'm thinking the CCI will be a ragged hole.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:45 pm
by blue68f100
A bad scope will drive you nuts, if they are not holding Zero.

With good ammo you should be able to shoot some very nice groups/hole.

Eye relief on most scopes are not near long enough for my long arms. I had some one measure me and I needed 28+" depending on scope placement on the gun. This is one reason I bring it up when shooter start talking about scopes for handguns.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:33 pm
by jstanfield103
I found several scopes for hand guns with less eye relief, I am only 5' 5" tall or short depending on how you look at things. Bullseye with the bench rest I am using 2 hands, 1 on the grips and 1 under the grips to flex up and down for "0". With the 20" eye relief it is comfortable but I really have my arms at full length ( almost). I am going to cut some more cross slots in my weaver rail this coming week end to get the scope a little more towards the front muzzel. It should help me a little bit more. Love the scope though it's great!

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:28 am
by Hardball
Take off the comp.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:17 am
by jstanfield103
Hardball, I kind of like the compensator. It doesn't bother the scope in any manner and I just like it. Don't know why, I know it's not needed but I like it.

Comps

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:57 am
by stork
Jstan,
While I agree with your assessment of looks of compensators (I like their looks too), Hardball is right. Remove it if you want to get the best accuracy from your 41.

I have 4 Hi Standards that I've tried the factory compensator on and every one shoots worse with it than without. I also have a Marvel Unit one, with a compensator that I bought used. It shot like cr@p at 50' (over 1"). I removed the comp and reshot it with the same box of ammo,... a ragged hole. In the Marvels case it turned out to be a huge buildup of lead deposits from the prior owner, who it turns out didn't know they have to be cleaned. I had to scrape out nearly an 1/8" of lead to get to steel. As I prefer the balance without it, I've never reinstalled it. I am too anal about accuracy and with the exception of the Marvel (just haven't had the time) I Ransom Rest every combination of barrels/bullets/powder I can concoct. In many cases I wind up reinventing the wheel and then feel like a putz because I squandered components needlessly, but at least I proved it to myself. And, occasionally I stumble across an unknown.

If you keep it clean and are willing to put up with the sacrifice in accuracy, go for it. As long as you are aware of their shortcomings and can live with them, they do look neat.

FWIW

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:04 pm
by jstanfield103
Stork, I had another person on Rimfirecentral tell me the same thing. After hearing three people with the same opinion. I believe I will try it without the compensator.
Thanks