Lack of Won't Power

greener · Post by **greener** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:07 pm

Stopped by the Richmond Gun Show to browse ammo, reloading and holsters. Had a surplus of will power and a serious deficit of "won't" power.

Made in 1999. Looks to be in pretty good shape and pretty well cared for. Needed cleaning, but it really looks like the round count is pretty low. I'm not sure what the previous owner was shooting, but the rear sights were adjusted all the way down.

It took me a few magazines to adjust to the target grips and the fact there wasn't a button on the grip to release the magazine. Can't find anything it needs, but I'm sure it will develop a need for a trigger and sear upgrade.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:14 am

Sure glad to know that I am not the only one with a deficiency pf wont power. Just like a few weeks ago when I bought that last 10/22 that I did not really need. But witha 4 digit serial# making it an early 1965 manufacture and a pre warning barrel and a walnut stock with a metal butt plate and at the price I got it for, I just had to take it and give it a good home. After cleaning it looks and shoots great and probably was rarely used, just sat in a corner some where.

greener · Post by **greener** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:41 pm

Something about my second childhood. Can't find a reason that I needed another .22 pistol, but these have a great reputation and I had sort of been in the market for a MKII if mood and price met. Guess they did yesterday. Seems to be in good enough shape that there wasn't much to but clean it.

The 10/22's are another temptation. I'd like to find a "project" rifle and do some fiddling around. I can't decide whether the work that folks like Song Dawg have done is an inspiration to try something like that or just so good that I know I can't approach it.

Good shooting, Len

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:43 pm

Rob, the 3 10/22's I have shoot fine right out of the box. The Target gun has the receiver bedded and the barrel 2 inches forward of the receiver also, the carbines both the birch stock and the walnut are stock including the barrel band, and they shoot the best with the barrel band installed, Have modded the stock on the T and one of the carbines to take a bug hole tuner and that made very little difference also. Some like on ammo over the others but all 3 guns will shoot to less that 5/16 centers for 5 shots from the bench at 25 yards. Thought I might like to mod oe out but they shoot fines as is so guess I will just shoot the Hell out of them. They all have had the trigger set to about 2 pouds and the pre and over travel adjusted out of them by my favorite smith.

jaeger45 · Post by **jaeger45** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:04 pm

bearandoldman wrote:Rob, the 3 10/22's I have shoot fine right out of the box. The Target gun has the receiver bedded and the barrel 2 inches forward of the receiver also, the carbines both the birch stock and the walnut are stock including the barrel band, and they shoot the best with the barrel band installed, Have modded the stock on the T and one of the carbines to take a bug hole tuner and that made very little difference also. Some like on ammo over the others but all 3 guns will shoot to less that 5/16 centers for 5 shots from the bench at 25 yards. Thought I might like to mod oe out but they shoot fines as is so guess I will just shoot the Hell out of them. They all have had the trigger set to about 2 pouds and the pre and over travel adjusted out of them by my favorite smith.

(Sighhh... Looks to Bullseye, winks.)

My favorite smith is clear across the continent. (Sighs again...)

jjfunk · Post by **jjfunk** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:04 pm

greener wrote: The 10/22's are another temptation. I'd like to find a "project" rifle and do some fiddling around. I can't decide whether the work that folks like Song Dawg have done is an inspiration to try something like that or just so good that I know I can't approach it.

I was kinda shy about doing my first 10/22. I would do it again though, and plan on at least "one more" (famous last words) build. Most of the 10/22 building is simply buy and bolt, and "tuning" only gets involved when you start chasing crazy group sizes. (I am currently trying to get the 3/8" groups at 50 yds) For the money they aren't really that expensive and you end up with a rifle that was "made" by you. Kinda a nice feeling to be able to show it off and say "Yeah I did this and this". Really and truley though it IS as simple as choosing your options and then bolting them on for the most part. I am definately NOT a smith in any way, just a tinkerer, and still managed to put together my benchrest gun with no problems. I think that I probably spent 15 hours picking what I wanted for it and only 30 minutes putting it all together. I have since then done much "tinkering" with it, and there-in lies the love affair with it. Give it a shot, it's fun.

Also if you love to tinker, these don't have to be blown out of proportion to have a good time with them. Many of the guys shooting the 10/22 have great shooting rifles without ever changing the barrel or the stocks out. There are plenty of options when it comes to these fine rifles. Hope to see you getting one, they are a great diversion.

-EDIT- Nice find on the slab side. I have been itching to get one and have yet to find one when mood and price match up. I sure sish that there were more options in my area for shopping. Sigh....

greener · Post by **greener** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:48 pm

jjfunk wrote: -EDIT- Nice find on the slab side. I have been itching to get one and have yet to find one when mood and price match up. I sure sish that there were more options in my area for shopping. Sigh....

A while back the same dealer had a stainless single six at a good price and I opted for a P22. Regret that move. This time I saw the slab side and didn't hesitate past checking it out. I'd looked at a MKIII model last year and bought the MKIII Hunter instead. Always wondered if I would have enjoyed the GC better. Guess I have the opportunity to find out now.

The 10/22 erector sets look like fun. I'd hate to buy a new and start tinkering, so I've been waiting until I find a used one to play with. Did that with a Glenfield Mod 60 had had a ball. Of course there is the Winchester Mod 69 that yours truly has used and abused for about half a century...

Blindpig · Post by **Blindpig** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:55 pm

Greener, haven't we talked about this addiction of yours before? SEEK HELP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

greener · Post by **greener** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:01 pm

Blindpig wrote:Greener, haven't we talked about this addiction of yours before? SEEK HELP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

I missed the help I needed. There was an anti-gun protest across the street from the show. I should have noticed and confessed my sins. They would have really spurred me on to bigger and better things.

Question about the 12-step program. Is it total count, count by manufacturer, count by caliber, count by model or some other count I've missed?

Song Dawg · Post by **Song Dawg** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:11 pm

Congrats greener! Don't ever get that condition cured. Look what it helped you acquire!

That's reason for celebration...not buyers remorse!

If you ever decide to take the plunge on the 1022 (and I strongly suggest you do) let me know.
I've got plenty of tweaks and even some parts I'll gladly provide for inconsequential amounts, next to nothing, a mere pittance................. cheap!!!!!!!

Example:
Auto Bolt release
Auto mag release
Oversize pins
Bolt Buffers, cheap and effective
Triggers w/ overtravel adjust
Oversize custom charging handle
Hex stock screws for safe and accurate torquing.
Stay away from the gotta have sites until you get the feel for what's "essential" In other words, "walk before ya run!"

SD

Remember a 1022 can be tweaked to look stock and a target(.920) barrel and suitable stock can be added later.

SD

jaeger45 · Post by **jaeger45** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:31 pm

Uh-oohh... I knowed it- shudda stayed clear of dis kind of crowd 20 years ago!

Now, it's too late...

As they say, you cain't change an old dawg's spots!

Or is it "teach a leopard new tricks"??? Gittin' too old to remember...

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:34 pm

Blindpig wrote:Greener, haven't we talked about this addiction of yours before? SEEK HELP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN TOO LATE FOR SOME TIME NOW, GUNS AND FISHING TACKEL BOTH, HE HAS BEEN HOOKED JUST LIKE ANOTHER ONE OF THEM BOTTOM FEEDING FISHES.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:01 pm

f yopu can teach an old dog new tricks or not, us old dogs

jaeger45 wrote:Uh-oohh... I knowed it- shudda stayed clear of dis kind of crowd 20 years ago!

Now, it's too late...

As they say, you cain't change an old dawg's spots!

Or is it "teach a leopard new tricks"??? Gittin' too old to remember...

Not sure if y0u can teach an old dog new tricks on not, but I do know that us old dogs know all of the old tricks, but there are a lot for them we just can not do any more.

greener · Post by **greener** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:31 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
Blindpig wrote:Greener, haven't we talked about this addiction of yours before? SEEK HELP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN TOO LATE FOR SOME TIME NOW, GUNS AND FISHING TACKEL BOTH, HE HAS BEEN HOOKED JUST LIKE ANOTHER ONE OF THEM BOTTOM FEEDING FISHES.

You know it is a tough decision to go shooting, fishing or yard work. Don't think I'm hooked on fishing, I can not go any time there is gale force winds.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:50 pm

greener wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:
Blindpig wrote:Greener, haven't we talked about this addiction of yours before? SEEK HELP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN TOO LATE FOR SOME TIME NOW, GUNS AND FISHING TACKEL BOTH, HE HAS BEEN HOOKED JUST LIKE ANOTHER ONE OF THEM BOTTOM FEEDING FISHES.
You know it is a tough decision to go shooting, fishing or yard work. Don't think I'm hooked on fishing, I can not go any time there is gale force winds.

Rob, you have been hooked, played out and damn near landed, the only thing to decide is to grab you by the gills, net you or GAFF you, YOUR CHOICE?