Ruger MKIII stove pipes

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Post by melchloboo » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:58 pm

Yes, I'll clean and see. I'll probably order the extractor and replace it anyway some day.

For good measure here are the pics of my chamber before cleaning, several angles:
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Post by dingo1799 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:59 pm

bout a month ago, i bought a brand new mark 3 hunter, the first magazine and about once a magazine, i was having a stovepipe with federal bulk ammo from walmart.... CCI ammo never did it. last week i ordered a Volquartsen extractor, it showed up, i put it in, pumped probably 400 rounds through it saturday, and another 300 or so last night at the gun range, with a grand total of 0, yes folks, count them 0 stovepipes. i got to looking at the factory extractor, and it seems to look like it got rounded off in the process of manufacturing or something. it was a well spent $12 to me!

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Post by melchloboo » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:14 pm

dingo, thanks for chiming in. two questions:
1. after you replaced the extractor and did another 700 rounds, was that the federal or the cci ammo?
2. did you replace the extractor yourself, and if so on a scale of 1-10 with 1 being easy, how was the job?

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Post by dingo1799 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:42 pm

melchloboo wrote:dingo, thanks for chiming in. two questions:
1. after you replaced the extractor and did another 700 rounds, was that the federal or the cci ammo?
2. did you replace the extractor yourself, and if so on a scale of 1-10 with 1 being easy, how was the job?
1. the 700ish rounds were all federal, not a single jam or stovepipe.

2. yes, i replaced it myself, its harder to tear the gun apart than to change the extractor. its a matter of finding a screwdriver small enough to fit in between the extractor and push pin that puts tension on the extractor, pushing the pin back, and pulling the extractor out of the bolt.

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Post by Bullseye » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:47 am

That pistol definitely needs a good cleaning. Your failures may be attributed to some of the build up in that receiver. There's nothing wrong with the amount of clearance between the feed lip and your ejector pin. Should be plenty of room for a normally extracted case to strike the ejector cleanly. My first inclination is the dirty or weak extractor. Changing it is not a really big deal. Here's some instructions off of my web help pages http://www.guntalk-online.com/detailstrip.htm#extractor Drifting the firing pin stop may be a little harder if you have the roll style pin vice the solid one. The pin only has to be drifted about a third of the way across the bolt, to the left, to provide clearance for the extractor plunger.

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Re: Ruger MKIII stove pipes

Post by cadillo » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:14 am

melchloboo wrote:Ruger MKIII. I had a stove pipe today, unfortunately during a match and lost 3X on alibi. They happen pretty rarely (both the stovepipes and my Xs ;-) ), using the bulk Federal value pack ammo from walmart, which since I switched lot #'s is cycling flawlessly (except the stove pipes). Maybe 3 over 2000 rounds. But nonetheless, I'd like to eliminate or reduce them.

What causes them, and what can I do about it? Most of the time my casings are launching well away from me. It's been about 1000 rounds since I cleaned the gun and maybe its cleanliness related around the extractor?

The good news is I put that round out of my head during the match. Bad news is its haunting me now ;-)
I've had my Mark II for about fifteen years now. It has been shot a great deal with some of the most terrible ammo imaginable, i.e. Rem Thunderbolts, which are the worst for crudding up a gun.

In all that shooting, it has never failed to feed, fire, extract or eject. The key here is that I pull the bolt and clean and lube the barrel, chamber, bolt and extractor after each range session, regardless of how little I've shot it. If I shoot one magazine of ten rounds, same drill. I do this with all my guns, and even when brand new and tighter than a banjo string, they just don't hang up.

1000 rounds since cleaning? Egads! How often do you change the oil in you car? I bet you are a lot more dilligent with the auto. Dirty guns not only hang up, but they wear and break more quickly too. Clean and lube that puppy and it will work like you want it to.

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