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Post by scaleman » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:17 pm

Just wanted to say that this is a very cool site. I am pretty new to the sport of shooting. I have a Savage mark II rifle .22lLF and just purchased a Ruger Mark III Pistol. I dont know very much about these pistols and want to know what to do to it first. I have a pretty small budget, and want to use the gun for target shooting.

Thanks bullseye for the wonderful field strip instructions. They helped alot and after practicing about 5-10 times I can now do it in about 15 min. with out visual help.

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Post by Bullseye » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:10 am

Welcome to Guntalk-Online!

Congratulations on your new acquisitions for firearms. I know you'll get lots of enjoyment from them. The easiest modifications are changing the sear and the trigger with ones from Volquartsen. Both of these are relatively inexpensive parts and make the biggest impact on the usability of your pistol. Having a smooth, lightweight, trigger will make your target shooting experience much more satisfying. The detailed stripping procedures page I have published makes installing these parts fairly easy for a new Ruger owner.

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Post by DancesWithSquirrels » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:56 am

I just got finished replacing my trigger, hammer and sear with VQ parts. I just test fired it last night and the improvement is huge. Bullseye's detailed instructions were a tremendous help in doing the parts replacement. You don't really need to replace the hammer to get the desired improvement. I was forced to due to circumstances described in another thread about a butcher job a so called gunsmith did.

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Post by jjfunk » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:49 am

Welcome!

You picked a fine pair to get started with, but be carefull, .22's can breed like rabbits if you don't keep an eye on them! :)

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Post by scaleman » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:47 pm

Shooting my .22 is a blast. I love my Savage. I can get under .5" groups consistantly at 50 yards. I have a Nikon prostaff 3-9 40mm BDC scope(I know the BDC is over kill but its the only prostaff they had). I also love the accutrigger.

I rented a ruger mark III at the range and had so much fun I had to buy one. Now that I have it I have to improve it. Its in my blood, I wish the Savage had some hop-ups but I cant find any. This site is great and so are the people it seems. Thanks guys for the comments and advice im sure I will be around for awhile. my next rifle is going to be a Ruger 10/22 for my semi-auto rifle then a mini-14 but I cant afford the ammo yet and the wife would kill me with it being it cost $800+.
I will go to the VQ site and check it out. Bullseye I love your home made grips, you need to do an article on how to make thoose or maybe some plan's!!

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Post by greener » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:11 pm

Welcome to the forum. I've fired a Savage MKII G (w/accutrigger) a few times. Nice shooting .22.

jjfunk wrote:Welcome!

You picked a fine pair to get started with, but be carefull, .22's can breed like rabbits if you don't keep an eye on them! :)

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They will breed like rabbits whether you watch them or watch them not. :lol:

I bought a MKIII Hunter a couple years ago. Loved the way it shot. Bullseye's instructions made the VQ upgrade look so easy I did the accurizing kit (trigger/sear/hammer). Really a great improvement. Then there was the MKIII 22/45 (vq trigger and sear), then the MKII GC (VQ trigger and sear), then there was the MKII 22/45. Seems my will power is much stronger than my won't power.

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Post by scaleman » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:11 pm

Besides the safety stuff is there any difference between the Mark II and the Mark III such as accuracy, performance, etc? And I have plenty of "WILL' power myself.

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Post by Bullseye » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:35 pm

Really the cosmetic improvements are the difference between the Mark II and the Mark III models, they are basically the same pistol. Accuracy isn't any different between any of the Ruger Mark variants. It just comes down to what you like or what's most affordable.

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Post by John fox » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:24 pm

I might add that the Mark III also has a magazine release button which the others do not have. The loaded chamber indicator is also an added feature, but of course, that falls into the safety stuff.
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Post by scaleman » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:51 pm

Is Truglo a good brand for red dot sights. I have a friend of mine that is offering me a truglo 8030b for $15.00. It retails for 30-40.00. But I know jack about this. Is it better to learn to use the sights that are on the gun vs getting a red dot ?

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Post by Bullseye » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:57 pm

The Truglo 8030b is on par with a BSA 30 style optical dot sight. Not high end but it will work fine for light target work.

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Post by scaleman » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:50 pm

I guess 15.00 will be an ok price, till I can get a better one. Thanks for the input bullseye.
Another question, I performed a detail strip today, dont worry all went well. It brings me to my question does the reciver ever loosen up or should I file it a bit. It is a pain in my @$$ to get it off and on. The bolt stop is also very tight. I was thinking I might hit it with a little emery cloth. Whats your thoughts. Ive disassembled the thing a couple dozen times and its just not loosing up.

I also want to thank you to all of you for having patients with us new comers. :)

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Post by greener » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:33 pm

Receiver-frame lug will loosen up over time. Not much and over a fairly long time.

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Post by Bullseye » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:32 pm

No problem, I figure with my Dr. Bullseye page I have lots of patients. :D I'm just joking, I'm sure you meant lots of patience. I remember what it was like to have questions and not get very good answers. I just try to help folks out.

Your receiver will loosen up but it may take some time. There's a lot of folks who don't like a loose receiver and ask how to tighten them back up, so your's may be a blessing in disguise for you.

The same goes for the bolt stop. Usually a tight stop is from a slight misalignment of the receiver and frame. I put the bolt stop pin in from the top to aid with receiver to frame alignment. Once aligned, the bolt stop goes in pretty easily.

$15 is the price of a bulk pack of ammo. As long as the scope works you can't go wrong.

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Post by Curmudgeon » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:28 pm

Welcome. I'm pretty green too, so I'll be checking out your questions because many might apply.
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